License To Wheel (Was:Moab/utah Closings)

From: Brett Kinch <>
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 09:36:20 -0700

  I agree....More than one cop , however. There can be a crowd of a thousand
at Dump Bump and Potato Salad Hill at Easter Jeep Safari Week; sometimes
  It's outa hand in a big way. Lots of drunken idiots throwing beer cans and
bottles everywhere, starting fights, and lit up loose cannons behind the
wheel. It's more of a crowd control thing than it is a policing. It's alot
like a concert event.
  I think the best thing to do is to Have the Red Rock 4 Wheelers work in
conjuntion with the Moab Police Department during EJS Week, to lease out
both locations and have them fenced off with an admission charge at the
gate.This would allow them to pay for controlled parking, crowd control, and
litter clean up. Moreover, the Police can monitor the gates and inner areas
to convisgate alchohol, and arrest the disorderly. It's these two locations
that are easily accessible by drunken onlookers with nothing better to do,
and they need to be monitored.
   It's always the ignorant that mess things up for the aware. I think there
needs to be a big change in the way the BLM runs its' public lands for all
sorts of use Nation Wide. I believe a great way to teach the ignorant about
Use is to make a Mandatory OHV and Public Land Use License for Nation Wide
Public Land. Everything needs to be on the same page to eliminate hipocracy.
We all need a fishing license, no? They hand out booklets on what is fair
game and limits on fishing. I think there should be a test so at least
everyone will have to actually read the booklet before one can get a
license. I think this should carry over into a New OHV and Public Land Use
license. By giving out handbooks and having a short mandatory test before
one can get a License to Wheel, it will far reduce the ignorance and
offenders of Public Land. The cost of getting a license and renewing every
year should pay for itself, as well as help offset the cost for OHV Rangers
to write big fat citations to offenders of the land or people without a
license. Big offenses can revoke a license for a year or for life depending
on severity.
Jusy my thoughts on a possible solution to ignorance.
btw, wouldn't an OHV Ranger be a kick butt job? Wheel all day and protect
the trails from idiots.
Brett Kinch

> rather than close areas maybe they should put a cop at the locations
> and tie hes bonus to citations.
> >From: "Steve and Nancy George" <>
> >To: <>, "Bronco Fix" <>,
> <>, "Ben Saunders" <>
> >Date: 2/2/02 5:27:39 PM
> >
> >I love to wheel Moab! live only 3 hours from there, but you
> know what there
> >are so many drunken stupid at the Dump Bump and at Potato Salad
> hill that I
> >have a hard time not siding with some of the local folks that
> want to close
> >them down :^( Don't get me wrong I don't want any clousers
> but if you go to
> >Moab keep what I said in mind both of these areas hasve turned
> into a large
> >drunken brawl and to me that's not what wheelig is about. My
> $.02 Steve
> >George Farmington NM
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Ben Saunders" <>
> >To: <>; "Bronco Fix" <>;
> ><>
> >Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 5:11 PM
> >Subject: [EBML] Moab/utah facing multiple closings
> >
> >
> >> Hey guys and gals
> >> I know a lot of us are not from Utah, but a lot of us also
> go to Moab so I
> >> figured we would be interested in it, besides all of us need
> to get more
> >> active all over if we want to maintain any areas to have access
> to with
> >our
> >> 4x's
> >>
> >> info about new proposed national monument in Utah -
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> possible closing of potato salad hill -
> >>
> >>
> >> and possible closing of Dump bump -
> >>
> >>
> >> - Ben Saunders
> >> '74 Bronco - Colorado
> >> - Setrab coolers, Corbeau
> seats,
> >> Firestik antennas, K-4 switches, Mechanix wear, CTM u-joints.......
Received on Mon Feb 04 2002 - 09:41:24 MST

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