RE: WH Dana 20 Extreme Duty output shaft

From: David Routhier <>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 15:18:01 -0800

$200 for a twinstick. That's a whole lot less than replacing it with an
Atlas. What's the purpose of the rest of the parts you are adding in there?
Trying to get them on an even playing field doesn't really gain anything.
What are you planning on doing with your Atlas?
Running in mud? No advantage and a huge disadvantage unless you have the
horsepower (read money spent elsewhere) to turn your tires in hi-range.
Advantage: Dana
Running in the sand? See above. Advantage: Dana
Running in the desert? Most of the time, hi range suffices. When needed, I
have never wished I could go slower and have been happy with the d-20.
Advantage: Dana
Driving most of the trails in my area (So Cal.) Dana has never balked.
It's already installed and works. Advantage: Dana.
Then again, I will be the first to admit that I don't enjoy rock crawling
for miles. I find it tedious and would rather see some terrain than the
same old 1/4 mile of rocks all day long. I also don't like going out
wheeling with the assumption I am going to break something.
You are comparing apples and oranges. There just isn't a whole lot that the
Atlas is more suited for. I will absolutely agree that it is better to rock
crawl with the 4:1 and it is cheaper to get the Atlas than to do the full
upgrade on the d-20. Then again, with most things in life, it is cheaper to
buy a new one than to upgrade the old one.

BTW, $500 *is* a crapload of money to pay for an output shaft ; )

-----Original Message-----
From: kincade bauer []
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:41 PM
Subject: RE: [EBML] WH Dana 20 Extreme Duty output shaft

my only problem w/ the d20 is this - $700-$1500 for lower gears, $200
for a twin stick, and $500 for a new front output shaft - now you
could have bought an atlas, and you've STILL got old parts and a weak
front output shaft.

>I think the argument goes a little like this:
>If you haven't broken it, let it be. When (IF) you do break it, what are
>you going to replace it with? Another 30 year old one that you have no
>as to it's history or the new one from WH?
>I do not buy the Atlas argument. Different animal designed for a different
>application. 4:1 and 2.4:1 are not interchangable.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: []On Behalf Of
>William Sharp
>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 1:51 PM
>Subject: [EBML] WH Dana 20 Extreme Duty output shaft
>Anyone see the new Wild Horses Dana 20 'Extreme Duty' output shaft? Its on
>their home page at their web site. Is it pretty common to snap the D20
>output shaft during hard wheeling? I haven't wheeled my 70 EB in the rocks
>to find out yet, mainly mud. I am just wondering if this upgrade is worth
>it? Seems the money ($500ish)would be better off saved towards an atlass
>etc. From the write-up, the product seems to be well made.
>W. Sharp
>Wilmette, IL
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