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Re: [Bfix] Welder recomendations

From: DJ SMITHSON <trucksales_at_linkfast.net>
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:01:24 -0600

Drive a lincoln,drink a miller, and weld with a hobart...D.J.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Kinch <kinchx4_at_earthlink.net>
To: bfix <mail_at_broncofix.com>; ebml <ebml_at_bronco.com>
Date: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Bfix] [EBML] Welder recomendations


>Hey , didn't mean to make you both get bent outa shape, here.....
> I'm just merely stating the ratings. What you go with is up to you. Kinda
>like Ford or Chevy.....
>I know guys that swear by Millers as well and won't touch a Lincoln. It's
>all what you percieve....
>Salesmen are salesmen. They are are gonna sell you on what makes them the
>most money in spiffs for them at the time.
> I bought my 185 three months old from a company that needed something
>bigger. They bought a huge Miller and sold me the 185, gauges and bottle
for
>600 bucks. I learned how to use it. That's what it's all about...learning
to
>use the machine you have.
>Brett Kinch
>Rock-Quip
>www.rock-quip.rockcrawler.com
>
>
>
>> I guess that I will go trade my Lincoln in on a miller since Ive been
>> educated. I wish I would have known all this before I bought it. Not that
>> the different reps at the welding places I went knew anything by
>> recommending it, or that more than a couple professional welders said
>would
>> not own anything but a Lincoln. And not that the lincoln sure feels like
a
>> better welder, since Ive used both, including the Miller 185 and 210... I
>> wonder why it costs a bit more since its such an inferior machine. Kinda
>> makes ya wonder though....
>>
>>
>> Clint Eddy
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Bowlin" <live2wheel_at_msn.com>
>> To: "bfix" <mail_at_broncofix.com>; "ebml" <ebml_at_bronco.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Bfix] [EBML] Welder recomendations
>>
>>
>> > Well there you have it, the miller is equal to or better than the
>lincoln.
>> Its gotta be, says so
>> > right on the box.
>> > Mike Bowlin
>> > 67 EB narrowed 8"s...sefi 5.0,700r4,4.3 atlasII
>> >
>> > > O.K.....
>> > > You're getting your ratings and ranges confused, here....
>> > > You're comparing the Miller's output rating of a 60% duty cycle to
>> Lincoln's
>> > > max range of 200 amps at 30% duty cycle.....
>> > > Apples to oranges....Lincoln's 60% duty cycle is rated at 150 amps at
>24
>> > > volts, while Miller's 210 is 160 amps at 24.5 volts.
>> > > So here's a break down of their performance at 30% duty cycles (max
>> > > range)...
>> > > Lincoln 200 Power Mig--- 200 amps (max range) at 22 volts at 30% duty
>> cycle
>> > > MillerMatic 210--- 210 amps (max range) at 22 volts at 30% duty
cycle
>> > > How the two companies advertise their ratings are different. I don't
>> know
>> > > what the "CV" Output Rating is that Lincoln advertises their 30% duty
>> cycle
>> > > at. The 60% duty cycle is the Specified Rating through the U.S. and
>> Canadian
>> > > Standards Association.
>> > > Either way you look at it , the Miller is the more powerful
>machine.....
>> > > Brett Kinch
>> > > Rock-Quip
>> > > www.rock-quip.rockcrawler.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > That may be but the output range of the Lincoln is 200 amps, albeit
>at
>> > > > reduced duty cycle whereas the Miller's output rating is only 160
>> amps.
>> > > > These figures are from www.lincolnelectric.com and
>www.millerwelds.com
>> > > >
>> > > > Lee
>> > > > ---- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "Brett Kinch" <kinchx4_at_earthlink.net>
>> > > > To: "bfix" <mail_at_broncofix.com>; "ebml" <ebml_at_bronco.com>
>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:21 PM
>> > > > Subject: Re: [Bfix] [EBML] Welder recomendations
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > The Output Range of the Miller 210 is 30-210 amps. The Output
>Range
>> of
>> > > > the
>> > > > > Lincoln 200 is 30-200 amps.
>> > > > > The Rated Output at 60% duty cycle is 160 amps for the Miller
210,
>> and
>> > > 150
>> > > > > amps for the Lincoln 200.....
>> > > > > Brett Kinch
>> > > > > Rock-Quip
>> > > > > www.rock-quip.rockcrawler.com
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > You'd better check your facts again Brett. The Miller's
"Output
>> > > Range"
>> > > > is
>> > > > > > 210, not the actual or rated output which is only 160 amps
>whereas
>> the
>> > > > > > Lincoln is 200. Both companies try to mislead you a bit.
>> (Lincoln
>> > > does
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > same on their smaller welders.) They can get away with this as
>> long
>> > > as
>> > > > > they
>> > > > > > show the "Rated Output" somewhere. Buyer beware...
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Lee Wilson
>> > > > > > Houston, TX
>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > From: "Brett Kinch" <kinchx4_at_earthlink.net>
>> > > > > > To: "bfix" <mail_at_broncofix.com>; "ebml" <ebml_at_bronco.com>
>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 6:02 PM
>> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Bfix] [EBML] Welder recomendations
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > The185 has been replaced by the 210 which is more powerful
>than
>> > > > > Lincoln's
>> > > > > > > 200.
>> > > > > > > Rated Output:
>> > > > > > > Miller 210--160 amps at 24.5 volts at 60% duty cycle
>> > > > > > > Lincoln 200-- 150 amps at 24 volts at 60% duty cycle
>> > > > > > > Interestingly, my Miller 185 has the same rated output as the
>> > > Lincoln
>> > > > > 200
>> > > > > > > except for 1 volt....
>> > > > > > > Miller 185-- 150 amps at 23 volts at 60% duty cycle
>> > > > > > > Hmmmm.............
>> > > > > > > Brett Kinch
>> > > > > > > Rock-Quip
>> > > > > > > www.rock-quip.rockcrawler.com
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Kevin, good choice!!!!!! Ive used the Miller 185 and it
>cannot
>> > > hang
>> > > > > with
>> > > > > > > my
>> > > > > > > > lincoln power mig. Mine cost me 50 bucks more than the 185
>and
>> its
>> > > a
>> > > > > > true
>> > > > > > > > quality unit. And like Brian said, its got that cool Nascar
>> > > sticker
>> > > > on
>> > > > > > > it!!!
>> > > > > > > > :)
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Clint
>> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > > > From: "Kevin Lackey" <lackkevi_at_inconnu.isu.edu>
>> > > > > > > > To: "Mike Bowlin" <live2wheel_at_msn.com>
>> > > > > > > > Cc: <EBML_at_bronco.com>; <mail_at_broncofix.com>
>> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:19 PM
>> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Bfix] [EBML] Welder recomendations
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > I think after looking around I am going to get a Licoln
>> PowerMig
>> > > > > 200.
>> > > > > > I
>> > > > > > > > > found them for $1057.32 at www.weldingmart.com with free
>> > > delivery.
>> > > > I
>> > > > > > > just
>> > > > > > > > > have to decide between at 200 amp and the 255 amp
>> unit........ a
>> > > > > > little
>> > > > > > > > > more money.
>> > > > > > > > > Kevin
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > Pereant, inquit, qui ante nos nostra dixerunt.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
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