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Re: [Bfix] Welder recomendations

From: Lee Wilson <lwilson3_at_houston.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 17:09:36 -0600

Okay, one more question. The only reason I've been looking at this stuff is
I'm interested in getting one for doing both body work and working on a rear
bumper for my rig so I would like to be able to weld at least 3/16" mild
steel. I'm not even sure I need the 200 or 210. I was originally thinking
of the 175 Lincoln. Do you guys think this would be enough or should I go
ahead and wait to save up the extra $400 or so to buy the bigger welder?

BTW, Eastwood is having another sale for Valentines (10% off) so I was
thinking of getting the Lincoln MigPak 15 which is a package deal of the 175
(according to the tech guys at Lincoln).

Thanks guys!

Lee Wilson
Houston, TX
1970 Bronco, 351W (soon to be SEFI), C4, 36" Swampers, REP8000, Lock Rights
F&R
2002 F350 SD Power Stroke 4X4 Lariat auto CC 156", 3.5" Fabtech, 315/75-16s
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Kinch" <kinchx4_at_earthlink.net>
To: "bfix" <mail_at_broncofix.com>; "ebml" <ebml_at_bronco.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Bfix] [EBML] Welder recomendations


> O.K.....
> You're getting your ratings and ranges confused, here....
> You're comparing the Miller's output rating of a 60% duty cycle to
Lincoln's
> max range of 200 amps at 30% duty cycle.....
> Apples to oranges....Lincoln's 60% duty cycle is rated at 150 amps at 24
> volts, while Miller's 210 is 160 amps at 24.5 volts.
> So here's a break down of their performance at 30% duty cycles (max
> range)...
> Lincoln 200 Power Mig--- 200 amps (max range) at 22 volts at 30% duty
cycle
> MillerMatic 210--- 210 amps (max range) at 22 volts at 30% duty cycle
> How the two companies advertise their ratings are different. I don't know
> what the "CV" Output Rating is that Lincoln advertises their 30% duty
cycle
> at. The 60% duty cycle is the Specified Rating through the U.S. and
Canadian
> Standards Association.
> Either way you look at it , the Miller is the more powerful machine.....
> Brett Kinch
> Rock-Quip
> www.rock-quip.rockcrawler.com
>
>
>
> > That may be but the output range of the Lincoln is 200 amps, albeit at
> > reduced duty cycle whereas the Miller's output rating is only 160 amps.
> > These figures are from www.lincolnelectric.com and www.millerwelds.com
> >
> > Lee
> > ---- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brett Kinch" <kinchx4_at_earthlink.net>
> > To: "bfix" <mail_at_broncofix.com>; "ebml" <ebml_at_bronco.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Bfix] [EBML] Welder recomendations
> >
> >
> > > The Output Range of the Miller 210 is 30-210 amps. The Output Range
of
> > the
> > > Lincoln 200 is 30-200 amps.
> > > The Rated Output at 60% duty cycle is 160 amps for the Miller 210, and
> 150
> > > amps for the Lincoln 200.....
> > > Brett Kinch
> > > Rock-Quip
> > > www.rock-quip.rockcrawler.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > You'd better check your facts again Brett. The Miller's "Output
> Range"
> > is
> > > > 210, not the actual or rated output which is only 160 amps whereas
the
> > > > Lincoln is 200. Both companies try to mislead you a bit. (Lincoln
> does
> > > the
> > > > same on their smaller welders.) They can get away with this as long
> as
> > > they
> > > > show the "Rated Output" somewhere. Buyer beware...
> > > >
> > > > Lee Wilson
> > > > Houston, TX
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Brett Kinch" <kinchx4_at_earthlink.net>
> > > > To: "bfix" <mail_at_broncofix.com>; "ebml" <ebml_at_bronco.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 6:02 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Bfix] [EBML] Welder recomendations
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > The185 has been replaced by the 210 which is more powerful than
> > > Lincoln's
> > > > > 200.
> > > > > Rated Output:
> > > > > Miller 210--160 amps at 24.5 volts at 60% duty cycle
> > > > > Lincoln 200-- 150 amps at 24 volts at 60% duty cycle
> > > > > Interestingly, my Miller 185 has the same rated output as the
> Lincoln
> > > 200
> > > > > except for 1 volt....
> > > > > Miller 185-- 150 amps at 23 volts at 60% duty cycle
> > > > > Hmmmm.............
> > > > > Brett Kinch
> > > > > Rock-Quip
> > > > > www.rock-quip.rockcrawler.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Kevin, good choice!!!!!! Ive used the Miller 185 and it cannot
> hang
> > > with
> > > > > my
> > > > > > lincoln power mig. Mine cost me 50 bucks more than the 185 and
its
> a
> > > > true
> > > > > > quality unit. And like Brian said, its got that cool Nascar
> sticker
> > on
> > > > > it!!!
> > > > > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Clint
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Kevin Lackey" <lackkevi_at_inconnu.isu.edu>
> > > > > > To: "Mike Bowlin" <live2wheel_at_msn.com>
> > > > > > Cc: <EBML_at_bronco.com>; <mail_at_broncofix.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:19 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Bfix] [EBML] Welder recomendations
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think after looking around I am going to get a Licoln
PowerMig
> > > 200.
> > > > I
> > > > > > > found them for $1057.32 at www.weldingmart.com with free
> delivery.
> > I
> > > > > just
> > > > > > > have to decide between at 200 amp and the 255 amp unit........
a
> > > > little
> > > > > > > more money.
> > > > > > > Kevin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Pereant, inquit, qui ante nos nostra dixerunt.
> > > > > > >
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